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what the hell do you think a $1 trillion deficit is? once people wake up as to what is really coming, they will savage us and the commission. do not think these interest groups are not whoring it out right now. >> we came from the witness protection program. [laughter] >> it is tough to tell people what is going on when you have a presidential debate and during the course of that, no one asked anybody what they were going to do about the long-term solvency and social security for 75 years. if you do nothing, which is the glorious recommendation of the aarp and other senior groups, that in the year 2031, you will waddle up to the window and get a check for 25% less. who is goofy enough to let that happen? plenty of people. you have never heard a single question, what will you do with a $16 trillion debt? a question i thought was rather significant. >> the word fiscal cliff was never mentioned by candidates or one of the moderators in the debates. every day, we have a countdown. we already elected the guy. it has to be dealt with on its o
what the hell do you think a $1 trillion deficit is? once people wake up as to what is really coming, they will savage us and the commission. do not think these interest groups are not whoring it out right now. >> we came from the witness protection program. [laughter] >> it is tough to tell people what is going on when you have a presidential debate and during the course of that, no one asked anybody what they were going to do about the long-term solvency and social security for 75...
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we need to be creating jobs, not trying to cut the deficit. there is a time for that. we need jobs. >> tavis, good to see you, and you have a very famous voice. you were just on -- >> well, it is not that english thing you have, though. >> obviously, mine is much more. >> and coming up, something with a memorable voice, a lottery queen herself. we'll talk powerball. she has the name millions know and love, please reveal your name to us. >> i am yolanda vega. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be yours. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hyb
we need to be creating jobs, not trying to cut the deficit. there is a time for that. we need jobs. >> tavis, good to see you, and you have a very famous voice. you were just on -- >> well, it is not that english thing you have, though. >> obviously, mine is much more. >> and coming up, something with a memorable voice, a lottery queen herself. we'll talk powerball. she has the name millions know and love, please reveal your name to us. >> i am yolanda vega. but,...
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us into these deficits. as the chairman just said -- social security has never contributed one penny to these deficits. why to cut the benefits of seniors on social security to pay for the misspending and bad ideas of previous congresses, i do not understand. that is what we are adamant about social security -- use it to buy down a debt created by other things? no. on medicare, if you all just take a close look at the record, a lot of democrats lost their seats because of republicans politicizing this issue. democrats have already come to the table $700 billion in savings in medicare already. we have reformed medicare through be affordable care act, and much of it is doubling to play out. $700 billion -- that is a lot. i have not seen any republicans come forward with a proposal that saves you $700 billion. we did that without having to cut any benefits for beneficiaries who earned as benefits. that was the beauty of the reforms we passed -- we found ways to extract savings, principally from waste and fraud,
us into these deficits. as the chairman just said -- social security has never contributed one penny to these deficits. why to cut the benefits of seniors on social security to pay for the misspending and bad ideas of previous congresses, i do not understand. that is what we are adamant about social security -- use it to buy down a debt created by other things? no. on medicare, if you all just take a close look at the record, a lot of democrats lost their seats because of republicans...
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without adding a dime to the deficit, by the way. in fact, if done right, tax reform will increase revenues by spurring growth, job creation and therefore bigger tax receipts. tax reform is both a fiscal and competitive necessity for our country. it has been more than 25 years since we substantially reformed the tax code. twice as long, about 50 years since we did a bottom-up review of our international tax laws. the world has changed a lot in that time period and yet america has not kept up. the underlying assumptions in our tax code are frankly out of step with the complexities of today's global economy. this is especially evident in our corporate tax code. on the domestic side of our corporate tax code, the u.s. has become the highest tax rate country among all the developed countries in the world. so canada just lowered their rate from 16.5% to 15%. our rate is 39.2% when you combine the state and federal burden. federal burden 35%. state burden closer to 5%, 6%. so right now, the average among all the developed countries in the
without adding a dime to the deficit, by the way. in fact, if done right, tax reform will increase revenues by spurring growth, job creation and therefore bigger tax receipts. tax reform is both a fiscal and competitive necessity for our country. it has been more than 25 years since we substantially reformed the tax code. twice as long, about 50 years since we did a bottom-up review of our international tax laws. the world has changed a lot in that time period and yet america has not kept up....
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the deficit is large. where's the rest of his plan? he has to show us his plan. house members would like to extend all current tax rates permanently. that brings certainly the to the economy. get a subsequent bill for the sequestration. work with president obama in a good faith effort to get pro growth tax reform. that would work. we've got the ryan budget that spends $7 trillion less than the president's budget. that would restore the confidence that the economy needs. >> greta: senator, thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: with time running out, you would think that president obama would call the house and senate leaders and ask them to the oval office, but apparently something is wrong with the white house phones. he's trying to outsource the job to you. take a look. >> i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress, write them an email, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using the #my2k. >> greta: why doesn't the president pick
the deficit is large. where's the rest of his plan? he has to show us his plan. house members would like to extend all current tax rates permanently. that brings certainly the to the economy. get a subsequent bill for the sequestration. work with president obama in a good faith effort to get pro growth tax reform. that would work. we've got the ryan budget that spends $7 trillion less than the president's budget. that would restore the confidence that the economy needs. >> greta: senator,...
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the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is felt universally by your colleagues? we know a couple of them have bolted from that but you are going to hold in lock step on that position? >>guest: there is a universality in our conference with 240 of us in the house of representatives so there are 240 different opinions but by and large the majority of us firmly believe raising tax rates is counterproductive and doesn't solve the problem. >>neil: always a pleasure, sir, thank you. take the money and run? not quite but quite a run of companies hiking dividends. and disney is the latest and it will prob
the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is...
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we had a significant deficit. but the long term looked possible if we could solve the sshort-term problems. that was easier. in 1990, the parties were competitive, but they were not polarized. in those days, the bad guys were the opposition. today, they are the enemy. there is a world of difference between those two words. yes, we had some distrust. also, we had the ability to work with each other and believe each other and it made life easier at that time. there were other divisions in the congress. the party polarization today tends to make it republicans versus democrats all the way. there were other sub factions in those days. the budgeteers verses the appropriators, etc., that cut across some of those party lines. the most important difference, in my judgment, is that there was less outside pressure upon the negotiators from the radio and tv extremists, lobbyists, core constituencies, users of social media, etc. mostl they did not get 500 e-mails every minute in their office. they did not have people featurin
we had a significant deficit. but the long term looked possible if we could solve the sshort-term problems. that was easier. in 1990, the parties were competitive, but they were not polarized. in those days, the bad guys were the opposition. today, they are the enemy. there is a world of difference between those two words. yes, we had some distrust. also, we had the ability to work with each other and believe each other and it made life easier at that time. there were other divisions in the...
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plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement was reachable. >> i'm hopeful, but i wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative republican is now suggesting that while negotiations continue on whether the wealthy to pay more, congress should stop tax rates from going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people, and i think we ought to go ahead and make that abundantly clear to everybody and take it out of the negotiation. >> reporter: bott
plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least...
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as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity without major spending cuts and entitle 347b9 reforms we will continue running a huge deficit regardless of what anyone does on either side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be $850 billon a year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of things, but what counts is what he's willing to put on the table and so
as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided...
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mystery when 60% at least of the american people think that's an appropriate way to help balance the deficit. >> now, speaker boehner keeps telling us that he's put revenues on the table in form of closing loopholes, but democrats have not offered anything in terms of those earned entitlements. now, i know you said earlier that these are not connected issues, but are you and your colleagues willing to give any ground in terms of cuts, say, to medicare, medicaid, or social security or something? >> you know, this is somewhat laughable because, again, the republicans spent the entire campaign talking about how democrats slashed $716 billion from medicare and governor romney said i'm not going to take that money out of medicare. now they're demanding we take money out of the medicare. this is another example where their message keeps changing. it's not consistent and they're just relying on the same amnesia of the american people to let them get away with it. >> very briefly, sir. do we think there will be a deal or will we hit the cliff and go over it 1234. >> i'm getting more and more pessimi
mystery when 60% at least of the american people think that's an appropriate way to help balance the deficit. >> now, speaker boehner keeps telling us that he's put revenues on the table in form of closing loopholes, but democrats have not offered anything in terms of those earned entitlements. now, i know you said earlier that these are not connected issues, but are you and your colleagues willing to give any ground in terms of cuts, say, to medicare, medicaid, or social security or...
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tim giter in and rob neighbors bring the deficit cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> reporter: negotiators are meeting with boehner and top democrats. they heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in the negotiations like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement is reachable. >> i'm hopeful. it wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative is suggesting that while negotiations continue, congress should stop tax rates going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people. i think we should make that clear to everybody. >> reporter: bottom line, no deal yet. both sides are still talking. and both sides signalling that they're willing to give some ground to get this done and get it done on time. lynn. >> thanks so much. >>> it's not how he wanted to get there but former governor mitt romney heads to the white house. president obama is hosting his campaign rival at a private lunch. no reporters will be allowed in. it is t
tim giter in and rob neighbors bring the deficit cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> reporter: negotiators are meeting with boehner and top democrats. they heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in the negotiations like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement is reachable. >> i'm hopeful. it wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter:...
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howard's become a deficit hawk. i think howard and i would disagree probably on some of the elements of what constitutes -- >> no, but he's saying it's not a disaster if it happens. >> well, i was going to get to that point. the fiscal cliff itself, howard is right, it's a slope. on day one the economy does not collapse and go into recession. but i worry a lot about the markets. the market reaction to going over the cliff, particularly if we go over the cliff in disarray where there's really no plan. everything's broken down. nobody knows where anybody is. i think that could be pretty ugly in the markets. having said that, my own view is, that going over the fiscal cliff is only the second worst thing that can happen. the worst thing that can happen would be for congress to simply kick the can down the road on everything. >> that's exactly right. >> extend all the taxes, extend all the spending, let life go merrily on the way it is. we cannot let that happen. it is time to address the deficit. and if going over the
howard's become a deficit hawk. i think howard and i would disagree probably on some of the elements of what constitutes -- >> no, but he's saying it's not a disaster if it happens. >> well, i was going to get to that point. the fiscal cliff itself, howard is right, it's a slope. on day one the economy does not collapse and go into recession. but i worry a lot about the markets. the market reaction to going over the cliff, particularly if we go over the cliff in disarray where...
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they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the table don't act like we are not budging. >> steve: tim geithner is showing up. boehner and geithner and company come over and you better have a plan. more on this later on. >> gretchen: now the rest of the headlines. gitmodetainees. are they coming back to america now. or feinstein said possibility. the story came to light after fox news turned up a document. feinstein's office put it on line. that was his first executive order when he was elected president. he said he would close gitmo. it is still open. abbas's turn to ask for palestinian statehood. expected to get his wish . he wants palestine to be upda
they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the...
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it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee i want to talk about benghazi. let me quote. part of what you said, there should be a laser-like focus on going after those responsible. but in the blur of partisan wrangling over talking points we seem to have lost sight of the vital objective. some on capitol hill and elsewhere seem determined to go after another bright diplomat ambassador susan rice. i want to talk about finding those responsible. the fbi seasonisn't saying much. from what i know we have heard zero about arrests. what can you tell us about these perpetrators? >> well, i can tell you that we still have a lot of work to do. the intelligence community is pursuing all of the leads. there is nothing that i want more. this is true i
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if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. >> let your member of congress know. send that message said the president. the american people did. so many american people did that congressional websites and phone lines crashed after the president's speech. house phone circuits were so overwhelmed that an alert went out to members of congress that if they were expecting any really important phone calls therks shou they should try using a different phone. if you tried to visit the websites for john boehner or michele bachmann after the president's call to action, you just got a server to busy message. >>> last year, in the fall, the president went and did it again. the president went on a multi-state barn storming campaign style tour to push for the passage of his jobs bill. again, he asked the american people to get involved in that fight directly. he asked the american people to talk to congress. >>> i want you to call. i want you to e-mail. i want you
if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. >> let your member of congress know. send that message said the president. the american people did. so many american people did that congressional websites and phone lines crashed after the president's speech. house phone circuits were so overwhelmed that an alert went out to members of congress that if they were...
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it's exactly what happened during the clinton administration group old spending and quadrupled the deficit then this fall and you're going to you know god has influence or an article written in one thousand nine hundred six that sort of led to believe in it that became like the foundation trilogy if we really had really as for thirty two years this is been this is been the republican party tonight and your eyes are big enough to remember that the clinton administration yes first week that bill clinton right after the election the first week after the election when the republicans were screaming about what the national debt there had been no discussion about it at all for twelve years before. or that they were in the wreck during the time the reagan radio who knew of primary had a one hundred day ross perot is not talking about the rally going to the jack raid well yeah george testbench w. bush tries talking about but he was talking about the trade george not the not the know you start of the federal budget and george h.w. bush actually wanted to assert the line item veto you know that you
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we want to raise -- deficit. we want to raise taxes, cut defense -- we're willing to do all four of those things. megyn: marc, how does taking money out of medicare and giving it to obamacare cut spending? [laughter] >> it doesn't. >> that's not what i said, megyn. that's not what i said. >> it doesn't cut spending. they cut money out of medicare and put it to fund obamacare, but president obama has not put forward a plan to deal with the entitlement crisis. he put forward no plan on social security, medicare or medicaid, which he himself admits is what is driving the debt and driving the real fiscal crisis. so they have put forward no plans whatsoever, and when paul ryan and others have put forward our plans, they've pilied them for it. i'm glad president obama's meeting with simon. i'd love for him to meet with john john boehner. [laughter] megyn: simon's got a lot of good ideas. were you in that meeting with the unions and the progressive groups that the president had -- >> no. i was in a different meeting. th
we want to raise -- deficit. we want to raise taxes, cut defense -- we're willing to do all four of those things. megyn: marc, how does taking money out of medicare and giving it to obamacare cut spending? [laughter] >> it doesn't. >> that's not what i said, megyn. that's not what i said. >> it doesn't cut spending. they cut money out of medicare and put it to fund obamacare, but president obama has not put forward a plan to deal with the entitlement crisis. he put forward no...
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it doesn't add to the deficit. in fact, it needs to be -- if any change needs to be made to it, it needs to be on the own freestanding. social security is one of the greatest programs this country has ever produced. it helps literally millions and millions of senior citizens and people on disability and people who receive survivor benefits and it's a great program and we should continue to support that program. we don't need to mess with it. when we do want to reform it, it needs to be something that will preserve benefits for people. and allows the program to continue. it's a solid program and it doesn't need to be in these budget entanglements. i hope americans really get the fact -- some people say, well, ok, you're right social security doesn't add to the deficit. let's talk about it anyway. let's talk about it for a minute anyway even though it shouldn't be considered. here's what could be said, mr. speaker, by someone who wants to defend the excellent program known as social security. they might say shouldn't
it doesn't add to the deficit. in fact, it needs to be -- if any change needs to be made to it, it needs to be on the own freestanding. social security is one of the greatest programs this country has ever produced. it helps literally millions and millions of senior citizens and people on disability and people who receive survivor benefits and it's a great program and we should continue to support that program. we don't need to mess with it. when we do want to reform it, it needs to be...
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>> we had 18 debt an deficit commissions since ronald reagan became president in 1981. in more than half of those, medicaid, medicare an social security were supposed to be part of fixing the debt and deficit, it never happened. if they kick the can down the road again without fixing entitlements in the process, entitlements still won't get fixed. >> we asked you to comment on the news and then sometimes you make news. the news about you, it says you are considering running in a primary to challenge saxby chambliss. are you any closer to a season? tell me what you're thinking and who is encouraging you to do that. >> well, you know, i said all along, no i'm not going to do this. i've been dismissive. in the past couple days, a number more prominent names have been calling and saying shy do it. i feel i owe them more consideration. i'm not closer to thinking i will do it, but i'm thinking about it more. my wife is adamant if i do it, i will be buried in the backyard before i announce. i think saxby chambliss, it's time for him to be primaried. >> your wife will bury you
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we have talked for a number of years now about the challenges we have in terms of the debt and deficit. but we are not talked about the investments that are needed in this country that will help make us stronger in the future. whether we're talking about education or job training or investment in our infrastructure or providing the services for our veterans when they come home or those kinds of things that we can't just continue to talk about cutting government. we have to have a country that actually is strong in the underpinnings and that is a balanced approach that i think we need to be taking. >> before we go, i swrus want to turn to one other piece of senate business, this oddity of susan rice. it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my exp
we have talked for a number of years now about the challenges we have in terms of the debt and deficit. but we are not talked about the investments that are needed in this country that will help make us stronger in the future. whether we're talking about education or job training or investment in our infrastructure or providing the services for our veterans when they come home or those kinds of things that we can't just continue to talk about cutting government. we have to have a country that...
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deficits of 1.25 trillion for the last five years. so we have a problem in our country that really needs to be resolved. we've become addicted to stimulus really through deficit spending, through 0% interest rates. >> how are you investing around this? >> we're comfortable investing in corporate bonds. bond spreads have tightened, but investors still being paid on a reasonable basis. we have structured products like clos. >> do you care if we go over the cliff? >> it's a concern, but i think it's actually not that much of a concern to me, no. >> so it's okay? >> we look at the fundamentals of companies when we invest and the fundamentals of companies are very strong. probably will affect the stock market more than the bond market. >> and so ultimately you really don't care. >> i'm agnostic to it. >> this is like the first person we've had on the set that said he'sing a n ing agnostic. >> you would almost like to say that it might even be a positive. >> i think that's what he is saying. >> it's really addressing the problem of the coun
deficits of 1.25 trillion for the last five years. so we have a problem in our country that really needs to be resolved. we've become addicted to stimulus really through deficit spending, through 0% interest rates. >> how are you investing around this? >> we're comfortable investing in corporate bonds. bond spreads have tightened, but investors still being paid on a reasonable basis. we have structured products like clos. >> do you care if we go over the cliff? >> it's a...
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senate to pass important legislation, including the grand rudman deficit law. those issues remain important today. he did not aspire to be a politician. he did not have to like one. he cared deeply. we know he cared deeply about our country and devoted himself because he had a calling to shape and preserve our country's future. he believed deeply in the rule of law and used the force of his intellect to defend it. one of the things that is most telling about warren rudman is the statement that represents what he was all about. he once said -- i consider myself an american first and a republican second, fiercely independent, and totally committed to the common good. he had the carriage of his convictions and stood for what he believed in. in bidding farewell to to the senate in 1992, he expressed gratitude for the opportunity to serve in the senate which talented colleagues. many are here today to speak about their experiences with him. he expressed his hopes for the future of the senate, saying it is a special place with special people. i hope in the coming yea
senate to pass important legislation, including the grand rudman deficit law. those issues remain important today. he did not aspire to be a politician. he did not have to like one. he cared deeply. we know he cared deeply about our country and devoted himself because he had a calling to shape and preserve our country's future. he believed deeply in the rule of law and used the force of his intellect to defend it. one of the things that is most telling about warren rudman is the statement that...
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rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now, all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats, to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to m
rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way...
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it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits it, to streamline our tax system. to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> the problem with that strategy is that republic leaders are insisting that they don't want to take a framework for spending cuts down the road in exchange for tax changes now. they want it all done at the same time so that they can be sure that if taxes are going up on the rich, that in fact some of those spending cuts to bring down the debt will actually materialize. it might make it more likely to go of 00 cliff even though the president insisted today he thinks there will be a deal within weeks, shep. >> shepard: as for extending tax cuts for middle class americans it sounds like there is some agreement on that matter. >> it sounds like some republicans rank and file republicans are starting to turn away a little bit from speaker john boehner. tom coal rank and file member. is he part of the leadership but from oklahoma and basically said today extend the
it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits it, to streamline our tax system. to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> the problem with that strategy is that republic leaders are insisting that they don't want to take a framework for spending cuts down the road in exchange for tax changes now. they want it all done at the same time so that they can be sure that if taxes...
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but the other thing is remember this continued tax cut for the middle class is part of a deficit reduction package so the president is very much focused on getting rid of that debt and getting it off the backs of our kids but in the meantime, it is not necessary to raise tax rates on the middle class in order to get there. and if we did raise taxes on the middle class, it is not going to get us that far down the road. what will really get us down the road is getting back to the regular tax cuts, having the wealthiest of americans pay their fair share. letting the 2% go back up from 35% to 39% which they were under bill clinton. one final my2k story from doug up in vancouver washington. what do you say? >> caller: hey bill. let me put my bong down real quick here. [ laughter ] >> caller: you know, there is a certain bunch of us here that think that they're going to get us on entitlement. that's all they keep talking about. nobody's mentioning the military. so i'm with the other caller, the gal before that said let's go over the cliff. you're going to screw us anyway, you know what? everybod
but the other thing is remember this continued tax cut for the middle class is part of a deficit reduction package so the president is very much focused on getting rid of that debt and getting it off the backs of our kids but in the meantime, it is not necessary to raise tax rates on the middle class in order to get there. and if we did raise taxes on the middle class, it is not going to get us that far down the road. what will really get us down the road is getting back to the regular tax...
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ronald reagan cut tax rates and congress promised to cut spending to reduce the deficit. spending cuts never happened. >> on the republican side it takes their negotiating power off the table. if a at the entitlement cuts of front. and taking that down the road. stuart: down payment satisfying -- >> and the president has said many time lost the election. stuart: charles last night said this about what leverage the republicans have. the leveraged is if we go over the cliff no matter who is blamed will ruin president obama's second term because this economy really will go into recession. and we will get a debt downgrade. that would really hurt -- >> there's a more serious which is any dissertation of our military. we are still one nation under god and we do not need to make imprudent cuts in defense for the sake of political gain or tactical benefits. i am against it and -- charles: you didn't answer the question. i still think the public will blame republicans. >> absolutely right. stuart: republicans don't have a lot of leverage. [talking over each other] >> their leverag
ronald reagan cut tax rates and congress promised to cut spending to reduce the deficit. spending cuts never happened. >> on the republican side it takes their negotiating power off the table. if a at the entitlement cuts of front. and taking that down the road. stuart: down payment satisfying -- >> and the president has said many time lost the election. stuart: charles last night said this about what leverage the republicans have. the leveraged is if we go over the cliff no matter...
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a real deficit reduction. 70% of the american people support that. they can't even come to terms with that. they seem to have not noticed the republicans that we did have an election. the president campaigned on this question of continuing tax cuts for the middle class but raising them back to the clinton rates -- returning to the clinton rates for the top 2%. he pledged that he would veto anything but that. and he will. so until the republicans agree to those clinton-era rates, we are going to go off the fiscal cliff. >> you know, it's interesting, ari, you'll remember this because you were the white house press secretary in 2001 and 2003 when those bush-era tax rates were approved basically by republicans, very few democrats voted to approve those bush-era tax cuts. so why not do what the republican congressman from oklahoma says, what paul just said, go ahead, declare victory. say, look, all these democrats are now on board, they support for 98% of the american people the bush-era tax rates for a long time to come, declare victory and move on. >>
a real deficit reduction. 70% of the american people support that. they can't even come to terms with that. they seem to have not noticed the republicans that we did have an election. the president campaigned on this question of continuing tax cuts for the middle class but raising them back to the clinton rates -- returning to the clinton rates for the top 2%. he pledged that he would veto anything but that. and he will. so until the republicans agree to those clinton-era rates, we are going to...
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[inaudible conversations] >>> to find out more and watch event on deficit reduction we have created a special website you can watch video from capitol hill and white house and read the tweets. that's at c-span.org/fiscalcliff. ! new a few moments we'll hear about the u.n. vote of making palestine a nonmember observer state. from a state department spokesman and from british foreign secretary william hag in about ten minutes. and after that, we'll reair the hearing on amtrak's operations. several live events to telling you about tomorrow. from london they release the report on british media practices that including phone-hacking of people in the news. .. is $50,000. almost four to with the rest costs. and the vast majority of producers who use public schools. we could take the money we spend today, every public school system and save billions of dollars per year at the same or better outcomes. >> deputy secretary of state, bill burns' special envoy met with houston and president ,-com,-com ma mahmoud abbas in new york city to discuss thursday's vote in the united nations to elevate pal
[inaudible conversations] >>> to find out more and watch event on deficit reduction we have created a special website you can watch video from capitol hill and white house and read the tweets. that's at c-span.org/fiscalcliff. ! new a few moments we'll hear about the u.n. vote of making palestine a nonmember observer state. from a state department spokesman and from british foreign secretary william hag in about ten minutes. and after that, we'll reair the hearing on amtrak's...
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jenna: we heard a lot of different strategies, haven't we, doug, the ways to tackle the debt and deficit. is there any alternative that really exists besides cutting government waste and spending? >> reporter: one potential avenue they could take would be to actually fall off the fiscal cliff. that would necessarily make the difficult choices that congress and white house seem unwilling to make. tom schatz says that congress has a very typical way they approach these kinds of spending cuts. here he is again. >> with overlap and duplication is the proclivity in washington to create a program to solve a problem. something's wrong. we're not doing it right. we're falling behind in science and math. let's create five new programs. that has been the approach. >> reporter: as we speak treasury secretary tim geithner is meeting behind closed doors with the white house point man on congressional affairs with senate majority leader harry reid. perhaps we'll learn more about what kind of spending cuts the democrats are proposing after that meeting is done. jenna, back to you. jenna: we'll talk a l
jenna: we heard a lot of different strategies, haven't we, doug, the ways to tackle the debt and deficit. is there any alternative that really exists besides cutting government waste and spending? >> reporter: one potential avenue they could take would be to actually fall off the fiscal cliff. that would necessarily make the difficult choices that congress and white house seem unwilling to make. tom schatz says that congress has a very typical way they approach these kinds of spending...
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medicare, medicaid, the chief drivers of our president -- deficit. we made a lot of progress, but there is still spending we have to cut. the big bottleneck is republicans in congress on revenue and how much they're willing to come from. democrats will also have to step up and do some tough things. the notion that somehow these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and economic future is something i cannot -- disagree with more strongly, as does the president. there are commentators on the left that suggest that -- we should not deal with it at all. we have to deal with it. think about the damage -- let's say we could reach an agreement. i happen to believe, i am not an economist by training, but we have been around the south to understand -- that would be a great driver for our economy. we are over performing the rest of the world right now. if we can actually -- for the business community and the american people say we have our fiscal house in order for a 20 period and will still be able to invest in education and technolo
medicare, medicaid, the chief drivers of our president -- deficit. we made a lot of progress, but there is still spending we have to cut. the big bottleneck is republicans in congress on revenue and how much they're willing to come from. democrats will also have to step up and do some tough things. the notion that somehow these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and economic future is something i cannot -- disagree with more strongly, as does the president. there...